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Vexorg, I agree with you about the speedo. Like most cars it is ludicrously calibrated - to 140mph but not markings at 70mph or 50mph. Why do manufacturers do this ? What not stop at say 110mph and make the numbers bigger. The absence of a temperature gauge is a serious ommision - do they now want us to see the engine temp soaring when its doing a regen? Also I would like the gauges to be permanently illuminated.
 

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I have had problems seeing the gauges too. In certain lighting conditions it is impossible to see. It would have been a nice touch to have the option of having the dashboard backlit. I know I could switch the lights on but that is hardly the point.

I have also just been across to France.
The speed limits there ( 50 - 70 - 90 km/h ) were difficult to see on the speedo and I relied on my Sat Nav instead. It wouldn't have taken too much more thought to make this more clear.


We do like a good grouch don't we ?
 

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I think we're entitled to after spending over £20,000 on a car
My biggest grouch is the fact that a spare wheel is not provided.
It cost me £180 to feel happy towing - knowing that if I did get a puncture I could sort it out myself and continue my journey with no holdups.
 

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I really dont think any car is perfect no matter what you spend. People will always find something to complain about. In fact the more you spend the more likely you are to feel the need to complain about the smallest things.

No temp gauge and speedo only having half the numbers seems to be the norm these days.
 

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No temp gauge andspeedo only having half the numbers seems to be the norm these days.
This doesn't mean that we have to be happy about it.


It seems to be a case of ..... if VX ( or any manufacturer ) can cut the costs then the customer can like it or lump it !
 

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Overall I like it quite a lot, but it does make me laugh that there are things in the car that a student designer would have done better. I love Cruise, but the controls are certainly inferior to my last car. There is no 'suspend' the control other than to touch the brakes of course and frustratingly the on off is on teh end of the indicator stalk. Sitting on the motorway wafting along, I come to change lanes and find my speed dropping. Yep, I keep switching the cruise off when I flick the indicator stalk.

Argghh adverts on the radio. Gavin 29, technician for Autoglass - where's the damn MUTE button. No mute? I am going to record a silent CD, slip it into the player and then for mute swap to CD from radio. When you turn the volume right down, the head unit says MUTE? That's just sadistic. Of course it also turns down the SatNag guidance.

Don't miss the temp gauge at all. Last one had a light that went out once warm. This doesn't have a light at all - unless it gets too hot I guess. Think the heater controls are awful and I find I have to look at them for too long to be safe really. The heater does rather seem to have a life of its own though. I set it and then look down later and recirc is on, or the AC or something else. It's like the kids have been in fiddling with the buttons

I like more than I hate that's for sure. I agree about the speedo numbers. Why they picked those speeds to highlight is beyond me. I like the fuel gauge. Ping Ping with the orange light and then when you get really low it's like Armageddon. REFUEL OR DIE REFUEL OR DIE and a picture of a big orange fuel pump. Great. Can't miss that!
 

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The vast majority of cars have temp. gauges - for obvious reasons. Including the Mokka. At the Antara's price points an oil temp gauge and level gauge would be useful. Especially as VX tells you to check the oil and see if it is ABOVE the mark (DPF issue).
 

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Drivingmad said:
The vast majority of cars have temp. gauges - for obvious reasons. Including the Mokka. At the Antara's price points an oil temp gauge and level gauge would be useful. Especially as VX tells you to check the oil and see if it is ABOVE the mark (DPF issue).
in the last few years I have had a fiat Punto no temp gauge.

A Zafira top of the range design with no temp gauge.

And at present I have a SE Corsa with all the extras heated seats and steering wheel but still no temperature gauge.

I suppose Vx think its saves them money and the more gauges a car has the more people spend too much time worrying about something that might never happen. The case in point everyone spends more time watching their fuel computer worrying about regens than they do enjoying their Antara.

A few years ago most cars had oil pressure lights and temp gauges and even volt meters etc but nobody bothers about not having them these days so I guess its just a sign of the times and some of us are not keen on change.



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vexorg said:
Light steering, I find the steering very light, and it's too easy to wander if you are trying to guess the heater settings.
This thread is getting boring now Just skip the next few hundred posts and say you don't like the car ffs.
 

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Well their are things that you can genuinely complain about that would interest other owners and I have many small niggles about the Antara I could mention as well but I won't post silly little things just for the sake of it its pointless and pathetic.

Life must be boring if you can find the time to complain about every little thing that bothers you.

I might add you bought the car and hopefully did your homework and had a test drive etc so why after buying it complain about it. It makes you out to be the silly bugger for buying something that you don't like.

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Grumps said:
Drivingmad said:
The vast majority of cars have temp. gauges - for obvious reasons. Including the Mokka. At the Antara's price points an oil temp gauge and level gauge would be useful. Especially as VX tells you to check the oil and see if it is ABOVE the mark (DPF issue).
in the last few years I have had a fiat Punto no temp gauge.

A Zafira top of the range design with no temp gauge.

And at present I have a SE Corsa with all the extras heated seats and steering wheel but still no temperature gauge.

I suppose Vx think its saves them money and the more gauges a car has the more people spend too much time worrying about something that might never happen. The case in point everyone spends more time watching their fuel computer worrying about regens than they do enjoying their Antara.

A few years ago most cars had oil pressure lights and temp gauges and even volt meters etc but nobody bothers about not having them these days so I guess its just a sign of the times and some of us are not keen on change.
I wonder if one reason that the Antara does not have a temperature gauge is that you would probably crap yourself if you saw the engine temperature during a DPF regen.< id="_npwlo" ="applicationpwlo" height="0">
 

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My husband used to like all those gauges not to look as in the sense to worry but because they looked well smart on his Opeal Manata and VW Sirocco's.

The point of the matter as long as you have done your homework on the car you are buying and it still falls short of your expectations then why gripe, after a year or so trade in and buy one that has perfect all round ability



Oh buy the way good luck on that one
 

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Grumps said:
Drivingmad said:
The vast majority of cars have temp. gauges - for obvious reasons. Including the Mokka. At the Antara's price points an oil temp gauge and level gauge would be useful. Especially as VX tells you to check the oil and see if it is ABOVE the mark (DPF issue).
in the last few years I have had a fiat Punto no temp gauge.

A Zafira top of the range design with no temp gauge.

And at present I have a SE Corsa with all the extras heated seats and steering wheel but still no temperature gauge.

I suppose Vx think its saves them money and the more gauges a car has the more people spend too much time worrying about something that might never happen. The case in point everyone spends more time watching their fuel computer worrying about regens than they do enjoying their Antara.

A few years ago most cars had oil pressure lights and temp gauges and even volt meters etc but nobody bothers about not having them these days so I guess its just a sign of the times and some of us are not keen on change.
There is the money saving side to it but there is changing technology. Years ago we would have all these guages and dials etc to give the driver as much information possible so they could see how the car was performing and everything working within its tolerances, basically driver monitoring. But with changing technology, new ecu's, software etc the driver doesnt need the burden of looking after that much, all done by the cars ecu and other computers. Too much info going on for the driver to understand ( just look at all the lights when you turn the ignition)...What the driver has no control over he doesnt need to see !!
 
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