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Antarius

· #3 · Mar 24, 2013

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I was just about to ask where the first photograph was taken (no snow

) but then I saw the second one. Your car is looking well

ps just a little suggestion Gman and that is that you edit your photographs and remove the registration number. Better to be safe than sorry.

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@ John:
I notice that many people seem to be following your idea of removing the reg. number. This seems also to be done on UK tv too. Now, being thicker than most, I don't understand why. Surely one can get all the details from the DVLC anyway?

I will be pleased to be put right on this one.

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Inchindown

· #5 · Mar 25, 2013

Spantara said:
@ John:
I notice that many people seem to be following your idea of removing the reg. number. This seems also to be done on UK tv too. Now, being thicker than most, I don't understand why. Surely one can get all the details from the DVLC anyway?

I will be pleased to be put right on this one.

The reason is that there are organised crime gangs that harvest plate numbers off the internet so they can use them on stolen cars. So if they have a stolen Antara they look for pictures of Antaras with the number plates showing. They then use those numbers for false plates. That way if the police do a check on the plate they will see it is a genuine number from an Antara and wont think it is a stolen car.

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Spantara

· #6 · Mar 25, 2013

Thanks for the info. It's a bit of an eyeopener that. Fortunately, I have been able to live my life well away from the "dark side", although I have had to work with politicians on occassion.
I never realised that it is necessary to go to such lengths assuming that cars are stolen for two reasons, other than just youngsters joy-riding, these being;

* as a get-away car from a bank-robbery and anyone using an Antara for that deserves to be caught as highspeed and accelerration are not in the Antara vocabulary.

* as export to the other side of the Iron Curtain (I know that the Iron Curtain has fallen but the curtain rail is still there)

Either way, one would not worry about the reg.

Honestly, I though that the VIN had stopped all of the steal-to-sell locally trade.

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Gman1212

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 25, 2013

Antarius said:
I was just about to ask where the first photograph was taken (no snow

) but then I saw the second one. Your car is looking well

ps just a little suggestion Gman and that is that you edit your photographs and remove the registration number. Better to be safe than sorry.

To be honest i have always posted up pics with reg numbers , Never had a problem touch wood . Thought the only things people could do with a reg number was search for car parts with it lol

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Antarius

· #8 · Mar 25, 2013

Hi Guys, Inchindown has covered all the bases with regards to vehicle registration numbers being noted down and what they can and are used for.

As many of you know, I was brought up with "security" being my watchword and because of that, some old habits die hard.

There is one other "crime" that people use and can causes the owners of the legitimate vehicle, no end of hassle and that is fuel theft.

Criminals trawl through car owners forum such as this and note registration number(s) of legitimate numbers pertaining to the make and model of the car which they want to fill up but don't want to pay. They then get plates made up with the registration number of the original car and fit them to the "clone". These plates are then fitted over the original number of the "clone" using elastic bands or on some occasions, they are just swapped over using a screwdriver as the only required tool.

After the fuel is stolen and "your" registration number is provided to the Police and corroborated on CCTV, it can be an uncomfortable ride trying to convince the Police that it wasn't you, a family member or a friend who had stolen the fuel.

It is therefore much easier and in the long term, much more secure not to post real registration numbers on any image on line.

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Spantara

· #9 · Mar 25, 2013

Interesting one this John.

Surely, it is the one who fills a car with fuel and then makes off without paying who is responsible and not the owner of the vehicle. Of course, the boys-in-blue would be knocking on your door to ask who was driving the car but is it not their job, together with the prosecution, to prove guilt? Guilt does not necessarily come with car ownership.
Taking a different tack, it would be interesting to know what precautions fellow members are taking to avoid theft of their Antaras or bits of them.

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Dan

· #10 · Mar 25, 2013

I wonder if the recent regulation requiring photo ID & V5 to have number plates produced has had any affect? (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ACArticleDisplay?storeId=10001&articleId=871168&categoryId=245215)

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Antarius

· #11 · Mar 25, 2013

Dan said:
I wonder if the recent regulation requiring photo ID & V5 to have number plates produced has had any affect? (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ACArticleDisplay?storeId=10001&articleId=871168&categoryId=245215)

To be honest Dan.....none.

I bought a set of private plates for my wife's Vauxhall Tigra in December 2012 and when I received the proof of entitlement which allowed me to have the plates made up, I was left with a choice.

Since my wife had a Tigra and she gave it the nickname "Tigger", I decided that it would be a nice touch to have a small logo of "Tigger" at the start and end of the numbers/letters.

Since there are certain legalities of what can and cannot appear on an UK Registration plate, I knew that I couldn't visit anabove board reputable company such as Halfords, as they would not add the logo of my choice. The only other option was to visit a less reputable company/garage, who are so desperate for business, that they ask no questions and ask for no identification.

Although I had the certificate of entitlement in my hand, I was never asked for it and I was never asked for identification. I had both plates made for about 40% of the cost for one at Halfords.

I just wanted to point out that although there are certain rules and regulations in place governing the supply of registration plates, it is not illegal for the customer to purchase plates that don't conform to the EU directives but the problem is when they are displayed on the car.

Basically it is a case of you pay your money and take your chance.

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Antarius

· #12 · Mar 25, 2013

Spantara said:
Interesting one this John.

Surely, it is the one who fills a car with fuel and then makes off without paying who is responsible and not the owner of the vehicle. Of course, the boys-in-blue would be knocking on your door to ask who was driving the car but is it not their job, together with the prosecution, to prove guilt? Guilt does not necessarily come with car ownership.
Taking a different tack, it would be interesting to know what precautions fellow members are taking to avoid theft of their Antaras or bits of them.

You are quite correct Stephen and although the Police will (or should) keep an open mind when investigating such matters, I am suggesting that it is not always possible to provide concrete evidence to prove that you, the true owner of a car bearing the same plates as the one used in the theft, were not involved.

It's great if you have an "alibi" to prove your case but that is not always possible and in my experience, law abiding citizens tend to get into a bit of a flap, when they can't and then they just get more and more worried that the scales of justice won't tip their way.

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John

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Grumps

· #13 · Mar 25, 2013

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Antarius said:
Dan said:

I wonder if the recent regulation requiring photo ID & V5 to have number plates produced has had any affect? (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ACArticleDisplay?storeId=10001&articleId=871168&categoryId=245215)

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To be honest Dan.....none.

I bought a set of private plates for my wife's Vauxhall Tigra in December 2012 and when I received the proof of entitlement which allowed me to have the plates made up, I was left with a choice.

Since my wife had a Tigra and she gave it the nickname "Tigger", I decided that it would be a nice touch to have a small logo of "Tigger" at the start and end of the numbers/letters.

Since there are certain legalities of what can and cannot appear on an UK Registration plate, I knew that I couldn't visit an above board reputable company such as Halfords, as they would not add the logo of my choice. The only other option was to visit a less reputable company/garage, who are so desperate for business, that they ask no questions and ask for no identification.


Although I had the certificate of entitlement in my hand, I was never asked for it and I was never asked for identification. I had both plates made for about 40% of the cost for one at Halfords.


I just wanted to point out that although there are certain rules and regulations in place governing the supply of registration plates, it is not illegal for the customer to purchase plates that don't conform to the EU directives but the problem is when they are displayed on the car.


Basically it is a case of you pay your money and take your chance.

Typical ex police think they can make their own rules up and above the law

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