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Hi, Being an Engineer and knowing the damage poor lubrication can do,I have always changed my engine oil between services. My last car was a Mondeo and the oil filter was accessible from the top,same as the Antara.

I purchased this oil vacuum pump to make the job easier. Just put the small pipe down the oil dipstick hole and pump the handle to create a vacuum. It will drain the sump within about 5 mins. Make sure the oil is warm (NOT hot) and it works a treat. No need to put the car on ramps and crawl about underneath.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Tools-TP69-Vacuum-Fluid-Extractor-6-5-Litre-Tank-Drainer-Water-Engine-Oil-/200689460884?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eba062694

There are cheaper makes about,but a service engineer recommended this one. Below is a youtube pomo clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym1lcNCNwrU
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Good post, I had been looking at these for some time now and wondered if they would work with the Antara (I had heard some cars it was difficult to get all the way into the sump with anything other than the dipsticks through the tube it uses)

Does it leave much residual oil ? I fear leaving mucky sediment in the sump each time if the plug was never removed...
 

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Hi, that was my worry. My mondeo took 6.5 L and that's exactly what I took out in my pump. Most modern oils work by picking up all the detritus and taking back to the filter,so there is no gunkremaining in the sump. I remember helping my dad change his oil when I was a kid (0ver 40 yrs ago) and I remember the oil came out in lumps


That was one of thetroubles with mineral oils.

When I first heard of these pumps, I thought it would take forever to drain the sump, but it really is that quick.
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Hi, I have been using one of these pumps for years, I first bought one for a vectra with a stuck sump plug. I bought it from machine mart and it was around £40 if i remember rightly. Very simple to use, a few pumps and a cup of tea later and its finished. I would recommend one to anybody and it saves crawling under the car!
 

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I have about as much idea about modern diesel engines as I do about quantum physics but I reckon even I could manage to change the oil with this pump, BUT is it really necessary to change the oil filter in between services, after all if a service is annual will the filter and oil last a year as they would between services. Or am I thinking wrong.
 

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Diamond Dave said:
I have about as much idea about modern diesel engines as I do about quantum physics but I reckon even I could manage to change the oil with this pump, BUT is it really necessary to change the oil filter in between services, after all if a service is annual will the filter and oil last a year as they would between services. Or am I thinking wrong.




Its a good question and I think it depends on your mileage. If you cover say 20.000 mles per year then I would suggest changing at 10.000 intervals due to regens diluting the oil.




If you only cover say 10k per year,then no its probably not worth considering.
 

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I plan to do the first 9 month oil change myself on my 2.4L Petrol Antara and want to use my oil vacuum too (which I have used successfully on many cars).

When you vacuumed the oil from your Antara, did all the 4.7 litrescome out?

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Hi, I changed it the old fashioned way,as I wanted to check for oil leaks that some members have found on the sump. My sump was Ok. I got approx. 5 lts out. It took a 5 ltr can and a bit more to top up - that's the oil filter as well. I have to 2.2 diesel.
 

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Do you really need to change the oil?? the car tells you when the oil needs to be changed. If you did change the oil when the light came on how would you clear the light?I use halfords auto centres and they are really good. They are not that expensive either!
 

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That's just my OCD. As an engineer I prefer to change the engine oil every 10K. Modern oils will probably last the 20k mls as stated, but fuel dilution worry's me.The oil service light only came on at 19500 mls.
I'm guessing that the oil service light only comes on after X amount of engine starts. I cover a higher mileage so 19.5k miles is acceptable. I know some people's engine oil condition light has come on after 4k mls.
 

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Hi,

I did the oil change and oil filter change (1st 9 month service) in my 2.4l petrol Antara.


I vacuumed the oil out via the dip stick tube and there was approx 4.2-4.3 litres of oil that came out.


The vacuum worked well.


It is interesting that I only travelled 3,500Km in 9 months and the original oil (new from the factory) that came out was fairly black.


The original oil filter fins were also bent!! Maybe the factory damaged the filter when fitting it...
 

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Oil in a petrol car should not be black after 9 months against a tiny Km's Seems you may have damaged piston rings and are getting blow past to the oil sump. Do a compression test on each cylinder to prove.
 
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