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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 10th June 2018, 12:01 Thread Starter
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Just read an article about the police using a truck (Mercedes-Benz Actros HGV cab<!--if gte mso 9>
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The trucks were loaned to the police by Highways England under a three year initiative and they've nailed thousands of drivers but is it just a case of easy pickings? Or maybe an ulterior motive of the insurance companies who reap millions in benefits from drivers - even stationary drivers - who are caught this way?



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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 10th June 2018, 13:22
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In France I was told they are banned completely - even 'hands free' - and sitting in the vehicle with the keys out of the ignition is not tolerated either. It seems a good idea; I recall missing a motorway exit more than once when engaged in business calls with a proper 'hands free' system and that was a bit scary. One's mind is elsewhere. These days I just let it ring or turn it off. Mobiles have their place but now most people cannot survive without them. They are no longer a means for direct communication and allow the authorities to track your life every second of every day to create an audit trail undreamt of ten years ago. Somewhere on the 'net there is a series of graphic images showing a French driver who was using his phone and drove straight under the lorry in front because he was distracted. He was torn in half at the base of his spine - his lower body was about ten foot from his upper - and I never forgot it. Good luck to the police on this one.

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Didn't know about France banning mobile phones while driving - good luck to them on enforcing that. What will they do when they have about half a million motorists jailed, will it be "Storm the Bastille part deux?" BTW I also read that France is about to start paying all their unemployed a 'minimum wage' of 530 euro a month so I'm not so sure on their judgment.


Mobile phones are here to stay, no doubt about that. Half the people I meet walking down the street have their noses buried in them. Are they really any more dangerous than talking to a passenger while loud 'music' is playing? Or arguing with the wife for that matter?



I'm retired now so I can do without one but for the road warriors out there, they need them. Very basic scenario; If you're headed out on a call to a customer who calls you or calls in to the office to cancel, surely it makes sense for the office to call you and let you know. Could be saving a lengthy journey and thereby reducing the chances of an accident, not to mention environmental impact?



Reason I mentioned the insurance companies, I remember years ago - before mobiles were invented - the edict was that speed kills and high speed chases were the order of the day. Insurance companies were known to supply radar guns to the police, especially at those speed traps where they knew they could harvest plenty. Their motive? Once again, increased premiums




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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 11th June 2018, 08:38
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On a recent trip to Trump Land I noticed how often folk over there use their phones to text etc while driving, frightening!!I know that the motorway patrol officers ( back when it was proper coppers!) used a HGV so they could nail lorry drivers who were texting, watching movies on iPads (I kid you not). The reason was with a HGV you can look into their cabs and see whats going on. I recall we were once in a plain police car on route to Oxford to collect the helicopter from a service, we were in a bit of traffic on the M40 nose to tail stuff and a guy behind us in a nice BMW 5 series ( the model where the indicators never worked!) he was happily reading the Times whilst driving in traffic. Amazing reaction from him when the police car lit up like a Christmas tree and stopped him..... Apparently he thought in traffic at less than 15mph he was allowed to read the paper to keep him alert and awake on long drives, his mind was focused with a nice yellow ticket. Safe to say in my book phone use is a no no and any way of stopping it I agree with, seen too many people wiped out by "important" texts that drivers have to read at speed

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Ah yes, Volrider, I can never remember whether it was you or
Dulac who is the ex-rozzer, thanks for reminding me. Not got anything against
the police for doing their job – and cell phone use is something they can't
just ignore – but two fully trained officers at 80-100K each in the truck plus
three patrol cars with two officers in each seems a bit draconian to catch a
school run Mum driving an urban assault vehicle who's just trying to get her
day organised. Never mind, we'll all get there in the end.
We've been to the US as well recently, had to pay $14
each for an ESTA just to get permission to visit and spend money there. I see
in LA county they've banned speeding cameras (seems there's a legitimate constitutional
question about “flashbulb justice” ie the 14th Amendment says you have the
right to confront your accuser. But how can you do that if your accuser is a
camera? There's also a case referred to the
Supreme Court about the Red Light Cameras on the same grounds.



I wonder if Britain
will ever consider a Turn Left On Red systemfor traffic lights?


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"I wonder if Britain will ever consider a Turn Left On Red systemfor trafficlights?"

That would make sense to me

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