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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 30th July 2017, 22:44 Thread Starter
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Having been giving some thought to an eventual replacement for my Antara, I have begun to wonder what the heck Vauxhall/Peugeot are thinking.
I imagined that the Grandland X would be the replacement for the Antara but when looking into the options I find that the Grandland X is considerably smaller than the Antara and would certainly not be suitable for my needs.
Looking at the table below it seems that the Grandland X is the Peugeot 3008 badged as Vauxhall when I expected that it would in fact be based on the Peugeot 5008!!


On that basis it seems that Vauxhall will be ruling themselves out of the large SUV market which is a great shame.


Further it seems that the newly launched Crossland X is smaller than the Mokka X!!


So it looks as though after owning more Vauxhalls than I care to remember my brand loyalty of over 50 years will probably have to be set aside for another make!!


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<td height="21" ="xl24" style="height:15.75pt">Vauxhall Mokka X</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">2555</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">4275</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1658</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1780</td>
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<td height="21" ="xl24" style="height:15.75pt">Vauxhall Crossland X</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">2604</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">4212</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1605</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1765</td>
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<td height="21" ="xl24" style="height:15.75pt">Vauxhall Grandland X</td>
<td ="xl25">2675 *</td>
<td ="xl25">4477 *</td>
<td ="xl25">1630 *</td>
<td ="xl25">1811 *</td>
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<td ="xl25" x:num="">2707</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">4575</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1704</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">2085</td>
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<td height="21" ="xl24" style="height:15.75pt">Peugeot 2008 SUV</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">2538</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">4159</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1556</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1829</td>
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<td ="xl25">2675 *</td>
<td ="xl25">4477 *</td>
<td ="xl25">1630 *</td>
<td ="xl25">1811 *</td>
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<td height="21" ="xl24" style="height:15.75pt">Peugeot 5008 SUV</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">2840</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">4641</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1646</td>
<td ="xl25" x:num="">1906</td>
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 30th July 2017, 23:55
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Wait until they bring out there new model that can only tow a empty trailer on the back
I thought the grandad X was going to be inline with the big boys toys that could tow at least 2500 kg to 3000kg looks like a great disappointment for VX/Peugeot shame on you

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A lot of these SUV type vehicles are pure kidology. The Mokka is (or was) Corsa-based, the Ford Kuga is Focus-based, the original Nissan Qashqai was Almera-based. I read a while back that the Hyundai IX35 had a shorter wheelbase than the Astra. Little wonder a lot of these are unstable with their high centre of gravity and short wheelbase and like going through the hedge.

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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 31st July 2017, 18:42
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Mind you there are a lot of drives out there that do not have the right car to van right match .
They think they like the look of the car so any van will do .but the car is not big enough

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post #5 of 20 (permalink) Old 1st August 2017, 17:47
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#gutted

I saw the ad for it on telly last night and thought the same...until I just read your post.


Im assuming the boot capacity is equally appalling....I really cant find anything I like that can match the Antara at a reasonable price....that I also like the look of.... #ImAPickyGit

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I wonder how the weight of the new Grandland compares with the Antara. Vauxhall state the weight of the Antara as 2345kg but the V5 says it's 2505kg and this seems to affect the weight of van it can tow. There's also the drivers licence – if you passed the test after Jan 1997 - as to whether you need to take an extra test to qualify for towing.

I'm only hazy about all these requirements because I don't tow with mines but there's quite a few members on here who do so the towing capacity of the new one is going to be an issue.



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The figures I have found are:-

Boot Capacity Grandland X 514 - 1652 Litres (seats up/down) Antara 420 - 1420 Litres (suprisingly less than Grandland!!)


Max Tow GrandlandX 1100 - 1400 Kg (depending on engine)
Antara ???????


Weight (Gross) Grandland X 1930 - 2020 Kg (depending on engine)
Antara 2345 - 2505 Kg (from Victor above)


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Manual max tow weight is 2000kg .less 75%
I would say 1700-2000 kg

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Manual max tow weight is 2000kg .less 75%
I would say 1700-2000 kg
I don't get that, 2000 kg less 75% is 500 kg.

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Sorry it shoul have said 25% less .it means you can tow 75% of 2000kg .which give or take is 1750kg .
Unless you are very good you tow tow at 100%

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